Intro music: “I fought the troll” by Tom Smith.  You can find more of his work here.

Hosts: Tim (OpenBytes) Roy (Techrights)

A rather different show (and one in which I take a back seat on).

Michael Glasser is our guest for this episode and whilst we cover a few pieces of news, the show is mainly focused around a debate between Michael and Roy which I host.  Both gentlemen have strong, passionate opinions about their topics and this show is aimed at highlighting and debating those opinions whilst at the same time trying to sift through the misrepresentation regarding them both on the net.

A very enjoyable show  and a rather different one.

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During the course of the show, Michael made several points in regards to PCLinux.  He has produced some screenshots, which will make sense when you listen to the audiocast.  Here is his comments following the audiocast from comp.os.linux.advocacy:

Well, a sneak preview at some of the discussion I had with Roy and Goblin.
I agreed to do some "homework", if you will, to test to see if my views or
Roy's were more accurate (in this one area... not stated as a universal
claim).  Here are the requested screenshots, along with the conclusion:

    I have made two predictions in terms of desktop Linux in
    general and PCLOS in particular:

    1) UI issues will continue to get better - there will be
    greater consistency, for example, but also there will be just
    general progress toward following well respected GUI
    guidelines in general

    2) Contrary to what others in COLA have told me in the past
    and what Roy Schestowitz told me recently, PCLOS will not
    show as much consistency as does OS X.  This includes when
    the programs used on PCLOS are *only* the ones that comes
    with it (or, in this case, one Roy suggested) and on OS X
    programs are included that did not come with the OS if they
    are popular (which is fair - OS X comes with fewer programs).


    1) As predicted, PCLOS has come a long way since the last
    time I reviewed it (see:
    <> and
    <>).  I might even
    say it has come along further than I would have predicted...
    which is good news for everyone.

    2) Unfortunately, Roy was not correct that PCLOS had caught
    up to the competition.  Even ignoring the fact that one
    program would not install (even though it came with a
    ³Manager² icon on the desktop!), the tested features were
    considerably less consistent on PCLOS than they are on OS X.

Frankly I would have been pleased had Roy been right... and, to be fair,
while he was wrong, he was not as wrong as I would have guessed.

Tim (Goblin)

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