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Having a sensible debate with some of the more "dubious" posters is like having a discussion with Jar Jar Binks on trigonometry.  I wonder if this "blogger" will be any different.

Having a sensible debate with some of the more "dubious" posters is like having a discussion with Jar Jar Binks on trigonometry. I wonder if this "blogger" will be any different.

I have a new site to recommend to my readers (hopefully) .  I noticed it on comp.os.linux.advocacy and whilst the MS Faithful (whatever their motives or intentions) like to say our opinion is worthless, it comes as a little surprise that the creator of this “blog” has decided to spend the time and name me with a little investigation (if somewhat wrong)

Let me start by quoting this “bloggers” description of me, then I will put it to the site that they are liar(s) and let you decide.

Used to troll MS Watch at some point. Then went trolling Neowin with some help. He “exposed” Neowin as a “Windows shill site”, which is akin to exposing fsf.org as a “Stallman shill site”, but you can’t beat investigative journalism of this caliber. Goblin is quick on the trigger but a bit slow on the uptake. He also patrols the ‘net for evil and reports back.

So I used to “troll” MS Watch? I posted far too much to quote here so I will ask you to actually read my comments there.  We had discussions (mostly about Linux) but since MS-Watch changed into more of a Linux forum and it was relevant to the topic at hand there was no harm done.  In fact Joe Wilcox (at the time whose blog it was) actually said publicly I was welcome (please check with him) By the way I’m back on Microsoft-watch since its started up again, please check my posts so far and see if you think I am “trolling”.

Next up “trolling on neowin with help”?  Whose help?  I never claimed Neowin was a shill site (I did imply a bias/ignorance on behalf of SOME of its reporters) please check that article yourself and then have a chuckle how the reporter in questions girlfriend came onto this site and tried to defend him….oh the memories.

If English isn’t this “bloggers” first language, here is a quote from my article at the time:

I am not saying anyone is being paid by Microsoft to post their articles, but as we saw in the case of Chakaradeep, having knowledge in one companies products can often lead to you posting incorrect facts about anothers (either intentionally or not) IMO.”

and here is the link: http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2009/04/30/the-big-boys-are-coming/ So I claimed Neowin was a Windows shill site did I?  Liar.

Please click the included “slow on the uptake” reference.  This was in relation to a Linux advocate I challenged for EXACTLY the same reasons I challenge Windows ones, misleading information (and I believe they are suggesting that I only challenge Microsoft users).  I don’t think anyone is part of a “anti-Microsoft” club and the fact that I am happy to highlight misleading information that favors Linux is a testament to how I don’t really care where FUD comes from, I always challenge it (goes back to my opinion of freedom of choice through informed decision)

The author of this “blog” happily ignores the other people I have exposed (the poster falsely using a legitimate company name to promote Microsoft stock to name just one).  Would you like to come here and bring that up?

Reports back?  Please check my posts and BN.  There is no reporting back and if you had cared to do what I do (which is investigate first before making a comment) you will realize that there are areas of IT where I have vastly different views to Roy, RMS and FOSS in general.  If there was a “boycott-boys” club, I certainly wouldn’t be part of it due to my opinions on DRM to name one area (I actually support it)

So what I’ve done is send an email inviting this “blogger” to openly highlight and expose what they imply on their description of me.  This was sent to vindicareg@gmail.com

To whom it may concern,

I read with interest your description of me on your “blog”.

I put it to you that you are a liar and invite you to visit my blog and openly give evidence on what you have implied.  You should be aware that any email response will be published. The article is entitled: ” You know you have made it when…..” and you can find it (if you didn’t already know) at http://www.openbytes.wordpress.com.

Yours faithfully

Goblin.

So you are probably now wondering what site I am refering to.  I am not prepared to link to it and give the author cheap hits UNLESS they come here and comment.   Its only fair that I have the chance to hear the basis for their opinions and I will be quite happy to donate some hits to their “blog” if they are willing to do this.

One thing though, the creators seem to like my idea of having a latin phrase as part of their title…. I wait in hope, but if you look back on previous “challenges” on this blog, when I respond to people who seek to tell lies, they never come back which is a shame because as Ive always said I encourage people to challenge posters on the net in the spirit of making IT decisions on the basis on informed choice.

So there you are Vindicareg, I challenge you to post here.  I challenge you to justify yourself and your opinions.  Since trolling and nymshifting seem to be the remit of those with a Windows view (IMO) could you please send and email confirming it is actually you posting here.

I should be flattered really, as well as using my idea of having a latin phrase in the site name, the author has spent time trying to find “dirt” (IMO) on me.  Its unfortunate that the only dirt they can find is where I show my impartiality when challenging a Linux user (just as I do Windows ones)

Goblin – bytes4free@googlemail.com

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14 thoughts on “You know you have made it when…..

  1. As you can probably guess, theres no response in my mailbox. I do hope the user comes here to justify themselves, but I doubt it.

    In the meantime, I’ll move on with other topics as I refuse to waste anymore time with that bloggers lies and silliness….

    Posted by openbytes | August 1, 2009, 11:54 pm
  2. There are a whole lot of Windows fanbois, shills, and just plain trolls out there, as we know. The biggest insult they like to hurl sometimes is Linux is nothing, its not even 1%, and cite the flawed net applications data.

    But here is an interesting link, it seems in Germany at least, Linux Laptops Bestsellers in Germany.

    http://www.linuxtech.net/news/Linux_Laptops_Bestsellers_in_Germany.html

    The purpose of M$ Shills/Trolls, are different than true fanbois, in that the Shills/Trolls have a purpose to at least distract or bury news that hurts M$. Keep up the good Work.

    Posted by Chips B Malroy | August 2, 2009, 4:50 am
  3. You only get the type of attention from MS Shills, when you touch a nerve, you know, tell the truth. So again, keep up the good work.

    Here is some more truth:
    Microsoft’s Long, Slow Decline

    http://daringfireball.net/2009/07/microsofts_long_slow_decline

    Posted by Chips B Malroy | August 2, 2009, 6:39 am
  4. Hi Chips!

    I was hoping they would return. I would love to see the “evidence” of their lies.

    Although I can’t believe for one minute that anyone would want to pay those people for the vulgar rubbish they post (and in doing so actually stir up more support for FOSS IMO) it would be an easier “pill to swallow” than if the childish lies and vulgar tirades they post were actually traits of their real personality. If thats the case then they have my pity but are also a cause for concern since if people with those personality traits are posting on the net, then IMO they should not be allowed near a computer without a responsible adult.

    Interesting links by the way!

    Posted by openbytes | August 2, 2009, 7:56 am
  5. What you are doing has some obvious value Goblin. In fact, it does have some importance to root out the M$ Shills.

    As in this post, look at the comments, and the replies to comments. Mr. Dee is replied to as a shill with link.

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10301028-16.html

    Look for the comment from Mr. Dee (Andre) a little more than halfway down, and of course, the replies. The fact that these Shills are starting to be exposed, and can now be exposed by more people, more often, has to be embarrassing for MS, and help inform the public. BTW, I do not comment on CNET.

    Posted by Chips B Malroy | August 2, 2009, 8:50 pm
  6. I have included the above link: http://www.s5h.net/2009/08/03/implications-of-personal-attacks-from-microsoft-shills/

    Because it is trying to imply that I am suggesting that the description of me on the blog is an attack from a Microsoft shill. I would ask everyone read the article and find that part because I’m damned if I can see it.

    For the record, I do not believe Microsoft would condone nor pay someone else for the pathetic effort they have put in. The site in question has merely printed lies about me. I have disputed those lies and asked they come here and prove to my readers that I am in the wrong. They haven’t (which comes as no surprise)

    At the end of the day I could care less the motive behind the post. I’ve simply asked to see evidence of the lies they state and nobody has come here to prove me wrong.

    Posted by openbytes | August 3, 2009, 10:00 pm
  7. Sorry Goblin, I not done with my Rant here. Exposing the M$ Shills was what Marco and I were all about. We did that on MS Watch, to inform the public about not trusting M$ and its unethical behavior. While we could expose some, it took others with more talent, like you and Roy to make it public. For that you are thanked.

    Now for the Rant about Net Applications. Should we be happy about there correction of OS desktop market share data being off by at least 5% all this time? BTW, I believe its still far off the mark, as Linux only increase by 18%. Most likely Net Apps filtered in some data from China (where software piracy is abundant) and neglected mainland Europe and Eastern Europe where Linux is stronger. But its more than that, Net Apps while changing it data collection for OS market share, did not change it for Browsers, did you notice that?

    Posted by Chips B Malroy | August 4, 2009, 4:54 am
  8. BTW Chips is right he did`nt write the “ishill” comment (love it, considering the Apple context of the article)

    ..wonder who did?..hmmm
    ;)

    Posted by chew | August 4, 2009, 7:02 pm
  9. Actually Andre Da Costa has been cited and used as a source in Cnet articles, while also posting as user “Mr. Dee” in some articles. He has also been used as a source in articles on the Seattle PI Microsoft reporting site as well. While some see him as only a 3rd world person trying to get a few “freebies,” from MS and MS and HP, he is much more than that.

    A quick search of Google for his name reveals the depth of his posting, he is either Andre Da Costa, adacosta, or Mr. Dee on so many MS related sites. The 1400 comments on Cnet are just a drop in the bucket from this M$ Shill. If he uses these nym’s, or sockpuppets, for a better word, there are most likely other names that he uses that are not known yet. But clearly, someone who most likely has 50K of comments on the internet, related to MS or its competitors, is not your normal garden variety M$ Fanboy. Most likely, but hard to prove, is he is paid to post.

    Dragging the truth out of people like this is like pulling Nails, or rather spikes from hardwood. When you got the truth, and he admitted it, he became very combative, and used namecalling. Not that much difference between him and flatfish on that score. Its one reason to use a sock puppet, is that the Shill can be a whole lot more nasty in his attacks. As in the case of Mr. Dee if you read some of his comments.

    The problem I find with Andre, is he aspires to be a MS reporter, like those on CNET, MS Watch, ZDNET, etc. Is it ethical, for someone like Andre who is most likely a M$ Mole, to get one of these jobs? Its seems that is what he is being groomed for. This is just my opinion, and my opinion alone.

    Posted by Chips B Malroy | August 4, 2009, 7:29 pm
    • I agree totally unethical. As someone who uses OSX (portably) Zenwalk and Sabayon at home and occasionally XP (when user support is required) I`ve seen the merits of all these platforms, let the end user decide for themselves. But i do find the tactics of payola bloggers unpalatable and they should be outlawed. In short keep up the good work exposing payola bloggers and let the product stand or fall on its own.

      regards

      Posted by chew | August 4, 2009, 7:53 pm
  10. I thought I was the only one who had the same point of view.

    Posted by making free beats software | March 2, 2010, 6:07 am

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